administration can, right now, put into place that we can be issued military i.d.s. we just can't be issued benefits where there is financial ties to it. so, you know, with a stroke of the pen, this military i.d. could be a nonissue. but back to, you know, your question, you know, the conversation with the group was can you access base, yes, i can, through my caregiver pass. and then initially it was the military i.d. according to their website, according to their facebook, at the time, it said nothing about a military i.d. all it mentioned was a spouse. you know, requirement of being a military spouse. >> so then what's the issue ultimately, you think? >> so, i mean, i believe -- i believe it is because i am in a same sex marriage and i try to, you know, ask the president and the board members to call me so we could discuss this, you know, farther. i never heard anybody. and then i went to, you know, basically the internet and wrote an open letter. and from there i heard from people all over the world, other gay and lesbian service members and their families, and th